Bonnie Thornton, a popular vaudeville singer who sang many of her husband's compositions, introduced the song in her act. After the band's break-up in 1970, he released several successful solo hits, including 'It Don't Come Easy', 'Photograph' and 'You're Sixteen'. The brothers started out as ad hoc songwriters, and sold their first song to Disney, "Tall Paul" in 1958, which was recorded by the budding Mouseketeer Annette Funicello, and climbed to #7 in the Billboard charts. Burnette's material had long been on the Beatles' radar, so with a backing band that consisted in part of Nilsson and Paul McCartney, Ringo recorded a cover of Burnette's "You're Sixteen". Annette made this record and it was tremendously successful, and the guys who ran the record company were wonderful. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} Please read the rules before participating, as we remove all comments which break the rules. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} A reference to "You're Sixteen" is made in the title of Cold Chisel's EP You're Thirteen, You're Beautiful, and … It's actually a cover of a 1960 Johnny Burnette hit, who was the frontman of the Rock & Roll Trio. And the 1970s was a point after the 1960s 'sexual revolution', but before more modern concerns with sex really became prominent. Advertisement "Yer Blues" The Threetles. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.de628c13230c59091a5d.css.map*/In 1969, Ringo Starr embarked on his solo recording career, starting with an album of big band covers, entitled Sentimental Journey. I'm sixteen, sixteen Gotta make the good times last! Johnny Burnette sang, "Your Sixteen" You're beautiful and you're mine. But suffice to say that such fandoms in the 1960s and 1970s (and now) were a socially acceptable, fairly safe way for teenagers to explore their sexualities. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} 1.1. She was 15 years old, she had five months to go on her Disney contract and they were looking around for some material she could sing for the pop market. Life is sweet When you're growing up so fast You gotta make the good times last! In Ja nuary 1974, a cover version … The brothers started out as ad hoc songwriters, and sold their first song to Disney, "Tall Paul" in 1958, which was recorded by the budding Mouseketeer Annette Funicello, and climbed to #7 in the Billboard charts. Which is to say that the phenomenon of older men lusting after barely pubescent girls is not new - and not gone either - there are in fact, still men marrying barely-pubescent girls in some states of the U.S. Harry Nilsson sang backing vocals on Starr’s version. It only got to #65 in the U.S. and failed to chart at all in the U.K. Yes, McCartney might have written how "she was just seventeen", and Gary Puckett might have wanted the 'Young Girl' 'out of his mind', but to repeat, this is not an answer to the question, and unless you can use these additional data-points to construct an answer which actually addresses the underlying socio-cultural, it adds very little. After all, if the role of women is as obedient servants of their husband who are barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, then, once women are capable of obeying their husband, and capable of pregnancy, why wait any longer? As sexuality did play a role in this dance, the more unscrupulous older rock stars (and TV presenters) doing that dance would eagerly exploit that relationship, both through song and in person. Thus the 1970s was a more laissez-faire age in regards to sex, and this is something that continues to fascinate people today (see the likes of the film Boogie Nights or the prestige TV series The Deuce). Previous to the 19th century, children were essentially treated as property of their parents, who could choose to marry them to older men if they so chose. Ringo's version of "You're Sixteen" was one of only two songs during Ringo's solo career that has reached #1 on the Billboard chart (the other being "Photograph" off the same album). 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Other covers Edit. McCartney contributed the song "Six O'Clock" to Ringo as well as backing vocals on "You're Sixteen." The song title has been the subject of musical parody by various performers, from Australian punk rock band Frenzal Rhomb's "She's Sixty, She's Beautiful and She's Mine" to Australian singer-songwriter Paul Kelly's "You're 39, You're Beautiful and You're Mine". .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{height:24px;vertical-align:middle;width:24px}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Musician, singer-songwriter Johnny Burnette was born John Joseph Burnette in Memphis in … You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mineYou're my baby, you're my pet We fell in love on the night we met You touched my hand, my heart went pop Ooh, when we kissed I could not stopYou walked out of my dreams and into my arms Now you're my angel divine You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mineYou're my baby, you're my pet Starr’s version remains one of the few #1 singles to feature a kazoo solo. It was first performed by American rockabilly singer Johnny Burnette, whose version peaked at number eight on the U.S. Who is Ringo Starr's wife and does he have children? As far as I can tell, contemporary reviews of Ringo's 1973 Ringo album don't remark on 'You're Sixteen' at all - the hook of the album for those reviewers was definitely the 'Beatles almost getting back together' angle, and there was much more discussion of the songs written by the other Beatles for the album ('Photograph' by George, 'I'm The Greatest' by John, and 'Six O'Clock' by Paul). If we look back to the 1950s, well, perhaps 'You're Sixteen' also is a reminder of Jerry Lee Lewis in the late 1950s marrying his 13-year-old cousin Myra, which I discuss at length here in the context of 1950s rural Southern American gender attitudes. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} As it turned out, it was the right move. The song was a worldwide Top Ten hit. of the first two S One of the Fab Four Packers QB whose #15 jers A similar story is told in the 2009 documentary film The Boys: The Sherman Brothers' Story, which features interviews with both Bob and Dick Sherman. "You're Sixteen" Ringo Starr. But at least in this case, the reason behind it is that the Sherman Brothers were trying to write songs for Annette Funicello in the late 1950s/early 1960s when she was still a teenager and was singing pop songs aimed at a teenage audience. Between jobs for Disney, they'd try to sell any song they could, and "You're Sixteen… The Portal for Public History The song title has been the subject of musical parody by various performers, from Australian punk rock band Frenzal Rhomb's "She's Sixty, She's Beautiful and She's Mine" to Australian singer-songwriter Paul Kelly's "You're 39, You're Beautiful and You're Mine". 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The latter performance reunited Ringo Starr with his former Beatles bandmate Paul McCartney. Pepper when discussing Ringo's song on the album "With A Little Help From My Friends": "Paul wrote the song, and wrote it beautifully simply, with just five notes that Ringo had to carry, all within one little phrase...Terribly simple, terribly effective.". You're Sixteen (You're Beautiful You're Mine) by Ringo Starr You're Sixteen (You're Beautiful And You're Mine) by Ringo Starr You're Sixteen by Daniel O'Donnell They agreed to help him out with the recording and production. I can shed a little light on the Ringo song. This traditional gender role isn't incompatible with a lack of agency. Favorite Answer. Thornton replied, "I love you like I did when you were sweet sixteen." "Sixteen Tons" is a song that was originally recorded by Merle Travis. She didn't record it, but 26-year-old rock-and-roller Johnny Burnette recorded it for his teenage audience, when his record label bought the song from Bob and Dick Sherman. "You're Sixteen" is a song written by the Sherman Brothers (Robert B. Sherman and Richard M. Sherman). It was first performed by American rockabilly … Here Sedaka sings "tra la la la la la la la la" instead of his trademark shoo-be-doo's in a song that could be the sequel to Johnny Burnette's Top 10 tune from exactly a year before, "You're Sixteen". Society is much more aware of ideas like power imbalances and privilege than it was in the 1970s. Ringo Starr never forgot about his solo career, however, and in 1992 he signed to Private Music and released a new studio album, Time Takes Time. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the AskHistorians community. I think, more or less, those contemporary reviewers saw the song as run-of-the-mill. In 1969, the Beatles had performed a rather convincing cover of Burnette's version of "Honey Hush" during the Let It Be sessions, even remembering most of the lyrics, which they didn't always do during those sessions. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} 3 4 5. You’re sixteen, you’re beautiful and you’re mine, Review: “EXPERIENCING THE BEATLES” by Brooke Halpin, Review: Beatleness – How the Beatles and Their Fans Remade the World, Review: “Riding So High: The Beatles and Drugs”, Terence Spencer Exhibition: A Lasting Impression, 45 years ago: The Beatles’ final photo session. The Beatles were fans of Burnette at the time of its release, and were still teenagers themselves (well, Ringo turned 20 the year it was released, while McCartney was 18, and Harrison was 17). It should also be pointed out that the politics of sex and youth have changed since the rise of feminist ways of thinking across the 20th century and in particular in the 1970s - one emblem of this is another hit from the same era as 'You're Sixteen': Helen Reddy's 'I Am Woman'. The brothers started writing songs for Annette Funicello, the record company requested more material, and "You're Sixteen" was one of the songs written around that time, when Funicello was just turning sixteen years old. They called us and asked for more material for Annette. The Nerk Twins. Asked by Wiki User. That doesn't really shed a whole lot of light on the overall subject of why there's a lot of teenage lyrics in 1970s rock-and-roll songs. 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On this date in 1960, JOHNNY BURNETTE recorded the song YOU'RE SIXTEEN (September 16th, 1960). 1. The combination of the laissez faire social setting and the nature of the music industry meant that, for example, Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones could sleep with a 14-year-old and not have the Rolling Stones blacklisted, and have their cultural and financial power mean that the police are not inclined to deal with the bad publicity and legal firepower that they might be faced with for arresting a Rolling Stone. In January 1974, a cover version by British musician Ringo Starr hit number one. 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As I say in a follow-up answer there. However, in the 19th century, laws began to treat the consent of the married as an important part of marriage; it's at this point that you start to hear arguments that children should not get married because they are too immature to consent. An obvious example might be lyrics like - for example - the Beatles' 'From Me To You', written deliberately as a thank you to fans (see also 'Thank You Girl', slightly more obviously). In February 1973, Elton John hit #1 in the US with 'Crocodile Rock', which started with the line 'I remember when rock was young'. Answers must be in-depth and comprehensive, or they will be removed. 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A lot of comments dropping names of songs have been made, and removed. Life begins after school That's when we bend all the rules Time to hang with all my friends We like to be together In a place where we belong! And his version of 'You're Sixteen', with its amiable swing and his 'gonna give it a try though I'm not much of a singer' vocals, just does not sound like he's thinking sexy thoughts about someone who was sixteen year old in 1973. The original 1960 version of “You’re Sixteen” by Johnny Burnette is featured prominently on the 1973 motion picture soundtrack of the film American Graffiti. 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